Episodes

Monday Nov 29, 2021
Felicia Wu Song: Restless Devices
Monday Nov 29, 2021
Monday Nov 29, 2021
How do digital devices affect our journeys of spiritual formation — and what can we do about that? Join us for this conversation with writer and professor Felicia Wu Song as we discuss digital habits and the grace of establishing soul-shaping practices.
"Part of my own journey is wanting to become a different kind of person who can be present to the people in my life." — Felicia Song
Let me invite you into a conversation with professor and cultural sociologist Felicia Wu Song, in which we talk about her recent book Restless Devices: Recovering Personhood, Presence, and Place in the Digital Age. Reading this book felt like a real spiritual journey for me with Felicia serving as a gentle guide. She describes the challenges that come with our compulsive use of digital devices, and then leads the reader into spiritual practices that help temper some of the harmful effects and reorient our focus back to connectedness with God and one another. It’s a beautiful and courageous and kind book, especially around a topic that could be filled with shoulds and oughts — and Felicia and I talk about why she decided NOT to offer a lot of hard and fast rules about managing digital devices. I loved talking with Felicia and I think you’ll enjoy our conversation too. So have a listen! We're so glad you're here.
— Ann Boyd
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
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Monday Nov 15, 2021
Kaitlyn Schiess: The Liturgy of Politics
Monday Nov 15, 2021
Monday Nov 15, 2021
Join us for this conversation with writer Kaitlyn Schiess as we discuss her journeys around political thought, spiritual formation, and life as a graduate student in new place.
"How can I recognize the inherent goodness of contemplating God shaping me now?" — Kaitlyn Schiess
I’ve been a fan of Kaitlyn Schiess for a while now. Her book, The Liturgy of Politics: Spiritual Formation for the Sake of Our Neighbor (IVP 2020), has some very helpful things to say about how and why God’s Spirit is at work in us and — surprise! — it isn’t primarily for our own benefit. I have appreciated Kaitlyn’s voice in the conversations at The Holy Post, a podcast she frequents as a commentator and, recently, as an interviewer. I am so encouraged to find a young sharp woman at the center of important conversations these days speaking candidly and thoughtfully about what it looks like to love God, his Word, and his world. And I look forward to the ways she will provide leadership in the Church and in our communities in the days ahead. May God increase her tribe! So, it was a treat for me to interview Kaitlyn and as others have said, I look forward to seeing where God will call her in the future.
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
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Monday Nov 01, 2021
Alice Fryling: Aging Faithfully
Monday Nov 01, 2021
Monday Nov 01, 2021
What does it look like to experience spiritual transformation through aging? Join us for this conversation with writer and spiritual director Alice Fryling as we discuss how we can position ourselves for spiritual growth at every age.
"I have an assumption that we wouldn't grow old if this wasn't part of God's plan." — Alice Fryling
Let me invite you into a conversation with Alice Fryling, spiritual director and author of Aging Faithfully: The Holy Invitation of Growing Older. Alice is not only a prolific author and gifted teacher — she also happens to be truly one of my favorite people on earth. I met Alice in 1998 when I started seeing her for spiritual direction — a practice that continued for over two decades until Alice moved to Colorado. I remember noticing some of the early inclinations that Alice had toward writing a book on the spirituality of aging, and so I was thrilled to learn that the book was getting published — and then even more thrilled to talk with Alice about so many of these rich ideas — most of which are widely applicable for anyone seeking to live a faithful life, even if you’re not quite yet in your senior years.
This conversation felt a lot more like sitting around the fire with an old friend than hosting a podcast interview — in fact, you’ll hear that Alice and I keep talking about questions I have for her, but I never really get a chance to formally ask them because they just come up naturally. You’ll hear — we had a lot of fun together. So have a listen! We're so glad you're here.
— Ann Boyd
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!

Monday Oct 18, 2021
Terumi Echols: Leading InterVarsity Press
Monday Oct 18, 2021
Monday Oct 18, 2021
Join us for this conversation with Terumi Echols, newly-appointed president and publisher of InterVarsity Press, as we discuss her career path, her family life, and her vision for the future of IVP.
"The church needs to hear from women in every aspect of life." — Terumi Echols
Let me invite you into a conversation with Terumi Echols, the newly appointed publisher of InterVarsity Press. We at The Well have a special fondness InterVarsity Press and the books they publish, many of which have been featured on this podcast and so I was especially delighted to talk with Terumi. In our conversation, you’ll hear Terumi’s thoughts as she is poised to take InterVarsity Press into a new season of leadership, and you’ll also hear about her significant professional accomplishments — many of which she managed while raising a family. Hot tip: listen for Terumi’s story about the strategy she had for balancing a full-time job while homeschooling one of her children who needed a little extra help in school. It’s quite a story, and I think you’ll really enjoy getting to know Terumi. So have a listen! We're so glad you're here.
— Ann Boyd
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!

Monday Oct 04, 2021
Denise Margaret Thompson: Leading Black Scholars and Professionals
Monday Oct 04, 2021
Monday Oct 04, 2021
Join us for a joyful and heartfelt conversation with Dr. Denise-Margaret Thompson, director of InterVarsity's Black Scholars and Professionals.
"How do you want us to speak peace and healing and reconciliation in this country at this moment?" — Dr. Denise-Margaret Thompson
Let me invite you into a conversation with Denise-Margaret Thompson, the newly appointed director of InterVarsity’s Black Scholars and Professionals. Denise is a delightful conversation partner, full of colorful stories about her upbringing in the Caribbean, her extensive experience in academia, and her personal journey of raising a family while building career. Spoiler alert: it wasn’t easy, but she did it! We talk about the work of Black Scholars and Professionals and the way this ministry is shaping itself to respond to the challenges of today. But the thing I like most through this entire conversation is the joyful way Denise walks through life as well as the spiritual depth she brings to the most complex situations. I think you’ll really enjoy getting to know Denise. So have a listen! We're so glad you're here.
— Ann Boyd
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!

Monday Sep 27, 2021
Power Women: Stories of Motherhood, Faith, and the Academy
Monday Sep 27, 2021
Monday Sep 27, 2021
How do Christian women navigate the call to both the academy and motherhood? Listen in on this panel discussion with the authors of Power Women.
“At the end of my day, I think about, ‘What are some wins that I had today?’ That helps me to retrain my mind to think about all the ways I am winning rather than the few ways I messed up.” — Dr. Deshonna Collier-Goubil
This podcast features a panel discussion that was recorded back in July with four Christian women professors who have contributed to the book Power Women: Stories of Motherhood, Faith, and the Academy.
In this discussion, host Karen Hice Guzmàn directs the conversation into all the topics you would hope for in an event like this: misconceptions about motherhood in the academy and the church, navigating gender roles in parenting, the work of resisting imposter syndrome — so many of the struggles that, for women, seem to accompany a dual call into the university and parenthood. But the thing that I liked especially was the sense of community they brought to the conversation. These women have not only collaborated on a project together of writing and editing this book — they have also supported one another along the way, and this has reinforced their hope that the book itself will birth new communities of academic women who can talk honestly with one another and forge new networks of support.
We love this idea! And we think you would enjoy reading this book and discussing it with others. In fact, we would love to invite you into a book club featuring Power Women that we are hosting at The Well later this fall on November 1, 8, and 15 — you can find details here. We hope you can join us!
— Ann Boyd
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!

Tuesday Sep 21, 2021
Rob Dixon: Together in Ministry
Tuesday Sep 21, 2021
Tuesday Sep 21, 2021
How can women and men flourish in their working relationships? Join our conversation with Rob Dixon about his forthcoming book on mixed gender ministry partnerships.
"For centuries, the church has been trying to fulfill the Great Commission with half of the team largely relegated to the bench. Let's try something different." — Dr. Rob Dixon
Let me invite you into a conversation I had with Dr. Rob Dixon, author of the forthcoming book Together in Ministry: Women and Men in Flourishing Partnerships. Rob's book puts forth a bold vision for mixed gender ministry partnerships that I found deeply moving. Through his research, Rob uncovers a comprehensive model for flourishing partnerships that inspires action. I’m still wrestling with it, honestly, and wondering how to create space for more flourishing in the partnerships in my own church community and work space. It’s just the kind of good work that a book can do in a person and I’m so glad that Rob is sharing this book — and this vision — with the world. So have a listen! We’re so glad you’re here.
— Ann Boyd
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!

Monday Sep 06, 2021
Jennie McLaurin and Bem Culiat: Designed to Heal
Monday Sep 06, 2021
Monday Sep 06, 2021
Can we learn to repair relationships by observing God's design for healing in our bodies? Join our conversation with Dr. Jennie McLaurin and Dr. Bem Culiat as we explore this topic and their new book.
"I would love for us to be a people who promoted healing with justice, healing with hope, healing with love and inclusion." — Dr. Jennie McLaurin
Let me invite you into a conversation I had with Dr. Jennie McLaurin and Dr. Bem Culiat, two women in science who have written a book together entitled Designed to Heal. This book is a fascinating exploration of the human body’s framework for healing — delving deeply into the science of healing on a cellular level — and envisioning how this healing process can offer lessons for the healing needed in relationships, community, and society. This book showcases each of the author’s expertise in medicine and science, weaves it together with very personal stories of healing in their own lives, and and then fuses this all together with spiritual wisdom and understanding. I love the way that Jennie and Bem are working hard to integrate science into their faith language, and I love their vision for the possibility of real healing in our society. The book itself is very inspiring, and this conversation was rich and joyful. I think you’re going to enjoy getting to know these two friends. You can read their bios below to get a sense of their background. So have a listen! We’re so glad you’re here.
— Ann Boyd
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!

Tuesday Aug 24, 2021
Archive Dive: Carrie Bare on All Shall Be Well
Tuesday Aug 24, 2021
Tuesday Aug 24, 2021
This summer, we're showcasing a few favorite podcasts from our archives. Listen in on this conversation with Carrie Bare from October 2020.
“Love is going to win and evil is not. We just have to hang on to that.” — Carrie Bare
I suspect that many of you, like me, have been feeling a measure of despair with the news lately. Between troublesome pandemic developments and climate change and the situation in Afghanistan, it’s easy to feel overwhelmed — and that’s not even taking into account the struggles of regular, everyday life. Last fall, life held a similar profile of emotions, and in that context, I interviewed spiritual director Carrie Bare, an InterVarsity staff veteran and all-around wise woman. Carrie has this delightful ability to empathize deeply while simultaneously pointing us to the real and living work God is doing in the midst of bleak circumstances. It is just the kind of thing I needed to hear, and I think you’ll appreciate it too.
Carrie Bare has been with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship since 1975 and currently serves as Associate Director for Spiritual Formation of Faculty. She is married to Randy and is mother to two grown sons. This conversation with Carrie was originally published on October 27, 2020. So have a listen! We’re so glad you’re here with us.
— Ann Boyd
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!

Monday Aug 09, 2021
Archive Dive: Luci Shaw on All Shall Be Well
Monday Aug 09, 2021
Monday Aug 09, 2021
This summer, we're showcasing a few favorite podcasts from our archives. Listen in on this conversation with Luci Shaw from July 2019.
"There is always something new ahead." — Luci Shaw
Today, let’s listen in on a conversation with poet and writer Luci Shaw. This interview originally aired in July 2019, and it’s one of my very favorites, full of the wisdom and perspective that comes with Luci’s 90-plus years of living. She brings such a generous spirit to the conversation, from her stories about her friendship with Madeleine L’Engle to the encouragement she offers to aspiring writers, to the abundance of freshly-written poems she shares with us. For the past couple of years, I’ve hung on to her advice to keep journal notes when life gets too busy for more formal writing. Luci says at one point, “I don’t think anything is ever lost” — and that’s been such a comfort to me when I feel like time is slipping through my fingers. This interview is such a delight and an inspiration. So have a listen! We’re so glad you’re here with us.
— Ann Boyd
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!

Tuesday Jul 27, 2021
Archive Dive: Sarah Akutagawa on All Shall Be Well
Tuesday Jul 27, 2021
Tuesday Jul 27, 2021
This summer, we're showcasing a few favorite podcasts from our archives. Listen in on this special episode from September 2020 with Sarah Akutagawa as she offers encouragement for grad students heading into a pandemic fall.
“Because if the kingdom of God is like yeast that gets worked through the whole dough, then it is activated by kneading, but it rises by resting.” — Sarah Akutagawa
In this episode, we're highlighting a piece that’s a little different from other conversations in our archives. It’s a short spiritual meditation — about 12 minutes long — given by Sarah Akutagawa during a webinar last summer on the topic of starting grad school in a pandemic. Sarah offers these beautiful, pastoral words about the hidden work of God that is taking place in our lives without our doing anything — it’s a wonderful message of truth, and I think you’ll like hearing it again even if you listened before.
Sarah Akutagawa serves as InterVarsity’s National Director of Diversity in addition to being a part-time graduate student at Fuller Seminary.The webinar was hosted by InterVarsity’s Graduate and Faculty Ministry on August 4, 2020, and this episode originally aired on this podcast on September 14, 2020. So have a listen! We’re so glad you’re here with us.
— Ann Boyd
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!

Wednesday Jul 14, 2021
Archive Dive: Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil on All Shall Be Well
Wednesday Jul 14, 2021
Wednesday Jul 14, 2021
This summer, we're showcasing a few favorite podcasts led by our previous host, Caroline Triscik. Listen in on her conversation with Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil from August 2020 as they discuss the complex work of pursuing racial justice and reconciliation in our world.
“What needs to be repaired? First we have to ask ourselves, 'What’s been broken?’” — Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil
I’m a new host on this podcast, and as we transition into our upcoming season, I’ve been digging through our archives and reviewing some of my favorite conversations led by our previous host, Caroline Triscik. This summer, we are showcasing a few of those conversations here and I’m really excited to share them with you.
Let’s listen in on Caroline’s conversation with Dr. Brenda Salter-McNeil, professor and Christian leader and advocate for justice. This interview originally aired in August 2020, but it’s still very relevant today. I really loved listening again and hearing how Dr. Brenda describes her own experience in racial justice work as a journey, something that is still in progress rather than something that is completely finished. She talks candidly about the ways her own ideas have shifted and developed over the past several years, and she also offers some specific advice for women in academia. So have a listen! We’re so glad you’re here with us.
— Ann Boyd
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!

Monday Jun 28, 2021
Caroline Triscik: An Invitation to Listen and Remember
Monday Jun 28, 2021
Monday Jun 28, 2021
Listen in on our conversation with podcaster and counselor Caroline Triscik about her next step in her career, her time hosting this podcast, and the lessons she has gleaned along the way.
“We’re inextricably connected to one another, and if we are ignoring someone, then we’re ignoring ourselves as well.”
— Caroline Triscik
For the past three years, over the span of multiple academic years, liturgical seasons, and even a global pandemic, Caroline Triscik has shepherded the listeners of this podcast through dozens of conversations with women in academia and beyond. Even as she built a platform to give voice to the experiences of a diversity of women, Caroline was in the midst of her own academic journey. At this juncture, Caroline is following her own call to invest in bringing healing to others through her work as a clinical mental health counselor. As I step into her shoes as podcast host for this next season, we thought it was only fitting to share some of Caroline’s own unique story in this farewell episode. We’ll hear a bit about Caroline’s journey, her decision to pursue this fresh calling, and even an original poem by her — plus a Spotify playlist featuring some of her favorite musicians. Join us for this conversation as we bless Caroline in this next stage of life and celebrate all that she has offered us through these years as podcast host!
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!

Monday Jun 14, 2021
Susanna Childress: Beginning Again
Monday Jun 14, 2021
Monday Jun 14, 2021
Listen in as Women in the Academy and Professions associate Caroline Triscik interviews poet and professor Susanna Childress about our season of grief, the process of healing, and the hope that comes as we begin again.
“It strikes me as a really important life-giving act to listen.” — Susanna Childress
After an incredibly long year of life in a global pandemic and acute awareness of racial injustice, poet and professor Susanna Childress invites to consider how we begin again. Revisiting our previous podcast episode, we continue our conversation about grief and suffering, particularly noting the loss of Susanna’s two children in utero and her process of healing. We ponder together the intersection of creative work, efforts toward justice and faith, as well as how the Church has so often missed the mark and even contributed to greater pain. As we contemplate together the power of words, both in healing and truth telling, Susanna generously shares a portion of an essay she recently wrote where she wrestles with how to discuss death and injustice with her young children. We pray that our conversation offers hope to begin again.
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!

Tuesday Jun 01, 2021
Taylor Schumann: When Thoughts and Prayers Aren't Enough
Tuesday Jun 01, 2021
Tuesday Jun 01, 2021
Listen in as Women in the Academy and Professions associate Caroline Triscik interviews author Taylor Schumann.
“Thinking about things is good, praying about things is good, but those aren’t where we end. That’s where we start.” — Taylor Schumann
We’ve all heard the phrase, “My thoughts and prayers are with [fill in the blank for the most recent community affected by gun violence].” It’s been spoken by leaders in our country and leaders in our churches time and again as we continue to wait for change. In her upcoming book from InterVarsity Press, When Thoughts and Prayers Aren’t Enough: A Shooting Survivor’s Journey into the Realities of Gun Violence, writer and activist Taylor Schumann invites us to consider how to have our thoughts and prayers be not the end, but the starting point for action as people called by God to love our neighbors. Candidly sharing about her own journey of surviving a shooting while working at a college in Christiansburg, Virginia, Taylor allows us to witness the story of how gun violence has impacted her life and faith. In our conversation in this podcast episode, she offers more of her experience toward healing and also encourages us to join her in working toward a cultural shift regarding our country’s relationship with guns. I am so grateful for my conversation with Taylor and pray that you’ll find it as meaningful and challenging as I did.
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!

Wednesday May 19, 2021
Anne Pharr: Welcoming Fierce
Wednesday May 19, 2021
Wednesday May 19, 2021
Listen in on a reading with professor Anne Pharr featuring a poetic meditation on living life with fierceness.
“Do I welcome my own fierce?" — Anne Pharr
In March 2021, Anne Pharr was invited to participate in a "Fierce Women Committee" as her college celebrated Women's History Month. Through this experience, Anne compiled a prose-poem to reflect the fierceness expressed through the lives of her colleagues — and her own life too. Anne shares this text-snapshot of a transformative experience to encourage us to find our own fierce and welcome it with open arms.
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!

Wednesday Apr 28, 2021
Christine Wagoner: Finding Your Yes
Wednesday Apr 28, 2021
Wednesday Apr 28, 2021
Listen in as Women in the Academy and Professions associate Caroline Triscik interviews author and ministry leader Christine Wagoner.
“I think there’s a lot of different yeses that you can have in different seasons...and I want to be open to other reasons to say no other than fear." — Christine Wagoner
Making decisions can feel daunting — especially those significant ones that seem to change the trajectory of our lives. In our latest podcast episode, author and ministry leader Christine Wagoner invites us to consider how to “find your yes” and lean into hearing from God in our lives. In our conversation about her upcoming book Finding Your Yes: Living a Life That’s Open to God’s Invitations, Christine shares her journey of learning to love all of who God created her to be, embracing years of undesired singleness, and experiencing the faithfulness of Jesus through it all. We hope you’ll enjoy this conversation.
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!

Wednesday Apr 14, 2021
Sandy Jap: Wisdom in Business
Wednesday Apr 14, 2021
Wednesday Apr 14, 2021
Listen in as Women in the Academy and Professions director Karen Guzmán interviews business leader and professor Sandy Jap in this special edition podcast from our Dear Mentor LIVE series. Sandy Jap is the Sarah Beth Brown Professor of Marketing at the Goizueta Business School at Emory University.
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
For more information on the Dear Mentor series, please visit http://thewell.intervarsity.org/dear-mentor.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!

Monday Mar 22, 2021
Cheryl Bachelder: Leadership Grounded in Faith
Monday Mar 22, 2021
Monday Mar 22, 2021
Listen in as Women in the Academy and Professions director Karen Guzmán interviews business leader Cheryl Bachelder in this special edition podcast from our Dear Mentor LIVE series.
Cheryl Bachelder is the former CEO of Popeyes Louisiana Kitchen, Inc., a multibillion-dollar chain of more than 2,600 restaurants around the world. She has been profiled in the Wall Street Journal, been featured on Mad Money, and received top industry awards. She had prior leadership positions at Yum! Brands, Domino's Pizza, RJR Nabisco, the Gillette Company, and Procter & Gamble. Today, Cheryl serves on a number of boards including the CEO Forum, an organization that encourages and disciples Christian CEOs and senior leaders. Cheryl holds a Bachelor’s and Master's of Business Administration degree from the Kelley School of Business at Indiana University.
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
For more information on the Dear Mentor series, please visit http://thewell.intervarsity.org/dear-mentor.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!

Wednesday Feb 17, 2021
Grace P. Cho: Take Heart
Wednesday Feb 17, 2021
Wednesday Feb 17, 2021
“We want women to know that they’re not alone and that it doesn’t have to be a pretty bow at the end of our stories….in the midst of the hard thing, that God is still there and that we can see Him in those places.” -Grace P. Cho
Listen in as Women in the Academy and Professions associate Caroline Triscik interviews writer and poet Grace P. Cho.
In our conversation, Grace invites us into her experience of contracting Covid-19, her journey of sharing her voice through poetry, and the spiritual practices that have recently helped her sense God’s grace more deeply. Grace also shares about the book she recently co-edited, Take Heart: 100 Devotions to Seeing God When Life’s Not Okay. Thanks to (in)courage, we are able to offer a copy to one of our listeners. Listen in on our conversation to hear how you can be entered to win!
For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well.
If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women in the Academy and Professions, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wap. Thank you for listening!